>From leebc Wed Aug 11 06:31:17 1999 http://www.dagorhir.com/wwwboard/messages/20045.html Posted by Brennus Britannicus on August 10, 1999 at 06:39:58: In Reply to: Re: studded armor posted by Gao Yu Qing on August 09, 1999 at 21:49:22: : : Well, I know that spikes, even conical studs are not allowed. round spots or rivits should work. : : Albruit of Cordova : cool. my next question would be, does a belt count for armor if it meets the requirements for thickness and such? i mean, IRL if ya were wearing an armored belt of corts, itd help against hits that landed on it. what say yall? Armour has to cover a majority of the area it is worn, so a belt by itself is not enough. As Albruit says below, it can be mixed with other armour since all armour is efectively the same in Dagorhir. Also, the easiest armour to make is to take some of the large steel washers, some leather(does not have to be 3/16") and some sturdy thread and sew the washers onto the leather and make sure they are no more than 1/2" apart. You can also attach washers to thicker leather with copper rivets(available at Tandy Leather). Brit Caledonia/Aratari (I'm still working on my 16ga mail....) : Gao Yu Qing the belt maker : Mongolian Empire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This looks cool, and I think it would work in our system. I may have to try it. Let's see...at 5 cents a washer, and with one washer covering about a square inch, and about 18x24 square inches for front torso...that's... 864 washers front and back. At 5 cents: $43.2 at 4 cents: $34.56 at 3 cents: $25.92 at 2 cents: $17.28 at 1 cent a piece: $8.64 In that kind of bulk, the price HAS to go down. :grins I think I'll call home depo and find out their prices. :-) >From goodwisa@eckerd.edu Wed Aug 11 09:29:08 1999 On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Bryan C. Lee wrote: > Also, the easiest armour to make is to take some of the large steel > washers, some leather(does not have to be 3/16") and some > sturdy thread and sew the washers onto the leather and make sure they are > no more than 1/2" apart. You can also attach > washers to thicker leather with copper rivets(available at Tandy Leather). > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This looks cool, and I think it would work in our system. I may have to > try it. Let's see...at 5 cents a washer, and with one washer covering > about a square inch, and about 18x24 square inches for front > torso...that's... > 864 washers front and back. I've been thinking about doing this for several months now, the only problem would be finding leather to make a jacket/ tunic out of (needs to be much lighter & softer than the bellies we've been using. >From goodwisa@eckerd.edu Wed Aug 11 10:41:15 1999 On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Bryan C. Lee wrote: > > I've been thinking about doing this for several months now, the only > > problem would be finding leather to make a jacket/ tunic out of (needs to > > be much lighter & softer than the bellies we've been using. > > > Why leather? :-) Why not just tie the washers together and wear as a > twisted form chain mail? A shirt of rings. Wouldn't hold together/ see section labled "Official Uniform Guidelines-- Space Orks of America" > I think I've actuauly seen > this, or something close to this someplace. Just tie the washers together > with waxed twine. > Or sew them on to fabric to make a jacket... might be > good for lending to newbies. Or I could review the price sheet I got from > MCL...I'm pretty sure they had some thin stuff for reasonable prices. I'ed > just as soon try it with fabric. Could work... lets do some research... We ought to try to get non-zinc/chromed washers. Cheap ones that rust might be cool. __________________________________________________________ | _ | | < \ | | [\\\\\\(O):::<======================================- | | \< > \ Samuel Goodwill, goodwisa@eckerd.edu | | \\ / | Box #534, | | `==='____/ http://acasun.eckerd.edu/~goodwisa/ | |__________________________________________________________| >From leebc Fri Aug 6 17:20:06 1999 http://www.concentric.net/~vistar/arador/menu1.html >From goodwisa@eckerd.edu Wed Aug 11 17:04:41 1999 look like something similar to what we are thinking of? (kinda sort of) well it's one kinda cool way of looking at it... http://dagorhir.com/aratari/varg.gif Does this look like < 8 feet? Mabe I'll try your pike... http://research.umbc.edu/~scarus1/pics/dag4.jpg Wee need something like this... Maybe a goblin household for oposition... http://research.umbc.edu/~scarus1/pics/kutconq1.jpg >From goodwisa@eckerd.edu Thu Aug 12 11:24:22 1999 On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Bryan C. Lee wrote: > > How do you think the washers in this one are attached? > It looks like they're rivited on...large brassy things in the middle. That would work, probably look cool too. Do you tink we might be able to find copper washers? (w/copper rivits they'd look really cool, we could treat them with a sealent either before or after they f\turn green...) or maybe we could take the washers & rivits and burn on linseed oil (the original black knight was too poor for a squire, so he did that to preserve his armour). > The Kingdom crest is the rather complex design that appears on the missing > colors. (I can give you a link...) I think it can be duplicated on a > smaller scale...I know it can, I have a shield with that on it. I think > it's just a matter of sitting and actuauly doing it. Brit would love to I'm sure... > 2ft x 3ft banner? Maybe a little bit bigger? Maybe just a LITTLE (say 6" per side) bigger... >From goodwisa@eckerd.edu Thu Aug 12 11:54:27 1999 On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Bryan C. Lee wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Bryan C. Lee wrote: > > > > How do you think the washers in this one are attached? > > > It looks like they're rivited on...large brassy things in the middle. > > That would work, probably look cool too. Do you tink we might be able to > > find copper washers? (w/copper rivits they'd look really cool, we could > > treat them with a sealent either before or after they f\turn green...) or > > maybe we could take the washers & rivits and burn on linseed oil (the > > original black knight was too poor for a squire, so he did that to > > preserve his armour). > I just realized that these must be fender washers...remember those large > ones with the small hole in the middle? I was trying to figure out how > they got rivits with big enough heads to hold those things on. > Now, washers over our lamella I'ed consider decent protection. It would trash the lamella. > Could probably find copper rivits...Searching the net... Copper rivits would be no problem, washers would be the annoying part. >From leebc Thu Aug 12 12:47:39 1999 > Copper rivits would be no problem, washers would be the annoying part. La la.. 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